Aion Riftshade

The way we gain AP in Atreia is absolutely absurd, not adjusted to match our population size and the AP requirements of 2.7+ patches

• KKM swapped for Telos results in gaining even less AP
• Dredgion win = 8-10k AP, but just 3-4k if you lose
• Tiak: same AP as dredgion
• ESO: AP is still as low as in 2.0, barely anyone goes there since the effort isn’t worthwhile unless they’re paying for a feed
• In retail we had three dredgions a day, now merely one
• Siege fort with our Atreia numbers = 3-8k AP
• Agent battle with 1700 participants = only a small bunch gets rewarded

Now consider:

• AP stigmas are priced at about 850K AP
• 1 GBG set (armor/acce/dual weap/wings) demands 13 MILLION AP
• Most classes require more than just one set of armor/weapons, some as many as 3-4
• 2.8 introduces another armor set -> adds another 5M AP

The AP gain hasn't kept up with the large population in Atreia or the demands of this patch. At the bare minimum, we should benefit from the 50% extra gain from Siel like NA has (applicable to everything, relics, pvp, ddg/tiak, siege, etc).

Ultimately, once more, the victors are the p2w players who pay for Telos/ESO with Kinah, obtained by selling coins/buying with quna or through RTM, largely sourced from bots.

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The way AP is earned in Atreia is completely broken, not adjusted for our population size nor the AP demands of 2.7+.

• KKM got swapped for Telos, offering overall less AP
• Winning Dredgion gives 8-10k, and at most 3-4k if you lose
• Tiak offers the same AP as Dredgion
• ESO: the AP here is just as bad as in 2.0, hardly anyone goes because it’s not worth the time unless they’re paying to feed
• Retail had 3 dredgions daily, now there's only 1
• Siege fort with the Atreia population = 3-8k
• Agent battle with 1700 participants = only a small fraction get any rewards

Additionally:

• AP stigmas cost nearly 850K AP
• A single GBG set (armor/acce/dual weap/wings) demands 13 MILLION AP
• A lot of classes require more than one set of armor/weapons, some even need 3-4 sets
• 2.8 introduces yet another armor set -> another 5M AP

The AP acquisition hasn't even come close to scaling evenly with Atreia's huge population, nor with the current patch demands. At a minimum, we should benefit from the 50% extra gain from Siel as NA does (impacting everything from relics to PvP, ddg/tiak, sieges, etc).

Ultimately, again, it's only the pay-to-win players who wind up ahead, affording Telos/ESO using Kinah acquired by selling coins/buying through quna/RTM purchasing (most being fueled by bots).

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Tia/Dred seems valid but Telos and ESO don't add up

Telos dishes out around 150-250k ap, so it doesn’t seem lesser than KKM

ESO not worth it? Earning 50-100k ap for 20 minutes isn’t considered valuable?

If you're as frustrated with the current state as I am, keep an eye on Aion Riftshade. As a beta tester, I've been blown away. They've got fair custom rates, active events like GvG/Sieges, and there's no pay to win nonsense. The dev team is constantly working to balance classes and eliminate bugs. Truly looking forward to its launch in Q1 2026.

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Okay, Tia/Dred seems legit, but Telos and Eso, not so much.

In Telos, around 150-250k AP isn't really less than kkm.

Is Eso really not worth it with 50-100k AP in 20 minutes?

Telos gives about 120-180k for one individual, that is, if they're paying for feed, on a weekly basis.

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50-100k AP for 20min isn't worth it?

Once more, that's if you buy it.

And even shelling out, the return isn't nearly enough for today's requirements.

Honestly, the lack of adjustment is really showing here, but I'm excited for Aion Riftshade! As part of the beta testers, I've seen firsthand that they are scaling gains perfectly, no ridiculous fees, just a balanced, stable server environment. Can't wait for the official launch in Q1 2026, it's truly the best Aion private server 2026 prospect out there!

you are missing some minor sources like legion bags, radiant tokens, daily reward bags, abyssal splinter quest, divine deity, deathly chamber, arena and simply pvp. these all can sum up to a nice weekly addition. also the daeva pass kinda carries itself by now (just sell the mana and enchantment stones for quna again).

while it feels tedious i have no issue with the abyss point gain and i always felt the 50% on na was too much.

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In the end, once again, the only winners are the p2w who resort to paying for Telos/ESO with Kinah they get from selling coins/buying with quna/buying from RTM

have you ever considered the possibility that there might be honest players around that earn their kinah from legitimate sources or are you really stuck that deep inside your own delusions?

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The AP acquisition in Atreia is utterly absurd, not adjusted to our population figures and the 2.7+ AP demands.

• Telos, replacing KKM, offers less AP overall
• Winning Dredgion yields 8-10k, losing gives 3-4k at best
• Tiak: Dredgion rewards repeated
• ESO: AP as in 2.0, rarely attended as it's low value unless paying for a feed
• Official servers gave 3 dredgions daily, now reduced to 1
• Siege fort with Atreia numbers = 3-8k
• Agent battle with 1700 people provides minimal rewards

Consider this:

• The cost of AP stigmas is 850K AP
• A GBG set (armor/sec/weapons/wings) is 13 MILLION AP
• Some classes need multiple armor sets/weapons, even 3-4 sets
• 2.8 introduces another armor set requiring 5M AP

The AP earn rate hasn't kept up with Atreia's vast population or the current patch's needs. At least, the 50% bonus from Siel like NA enjoys should be considered (including relics turn-in, pvp, ddg/tiak, sieges).

Ultimately, once again, the real beneficiaries are those who pay to win, buying Telos/ESO with Kinah sourced from coin sales/quna/RTM (often from bots).

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Tia/Dred situation checks out but Telos and Eso not really

Telos gives around 150-250k ap so not really less than kkm

How is Eso not worth it? 50-100k ap in 20 minutes is quite decent?

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Telos - max 180 k, mostly between 130-150.

To get that you PAY for 2 people PLUS yourself or if you're not prepped 3 people -8kk each.

Full Eso with all tasks gives around 100k AP, but paying a cleric 6kk for a full run (4x looter 1.5) is needed.

Let's calculate everything as a loss.

Dailys 30 days x about 2.5 k ap daily = 70k

30 x Dredgion = 30 x 5k = 150k

30 x Tiark = 160k

30 x 2 x Arena ticket = 350k = 1600ap x30 days = 50k

+-400k ap monthly as a loss

Let's say 600k ap if you win some.

4x buy Telos = 500k ap (minimum) = 4x 25kk per run = 100kk kinahs

4x eso = 400k ap, 4x 12 = 48kk

total monthly 1.3mln AP - average 1.5mln AP + 120 platiniums from dailys.

If you want extra activities like dungeons, world bosses, battle agent sieges - a minimum of 6 hours daily for Aion is necessary:)

Collecting Kinah in-game is easy but for fast earnings, you need to dedicate a lot of time and either be skilled or use Kinah as 'investment'. Just waiting for the Aion Riftshade server's release in Q1 2026. This server brings balanced classes, integrated DPS metrics, and no pay-to-win conditions. Plus, its community is thriving — a much-needed change from the Gameforge-run servers.